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so im really really thinking of putting the K on spray! i've been researching for quite a while now. seems like the older threads are when people say "YOU CANNOT PUT AN RSX ON NITROUS" then the newer threads and especially the sticky here, makes it seem like its as simple as installing a dry system and spraying your choice of up to a 100 shot. so heres a couple questions

1: you can use a 100 shot without kpro? :dontknow:

2: you can use nitrous without a tune/kpro? a stock ecu.

3: i saw a thread from 2005 saying you CANNOT run a wet system on an rsx because there is no fuel return? i plan on using a dry system.
 

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I personally only use wet systems. They are safer since they provide more fuel.


All of the answers to your questions depend on the shot. I would NEVER recommend 100 shot of nitrous without a tune or kpro... you'd have to be nuts... easy way to blow your shit right up. I wouldn't use anything greater than a 50shot without a tune period. But I also personally never use a dry shot, especially if you're not tuning for it since you will NEED more fuel.
 

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I personally only use wet systems. They are safer since they provide more fuel.


All of the answers to your questions depend on the shot. I would NEVER recommend 100 shot of nitrous without a tune or kpro... you'd have to be nuts... easy way to blow your shit right up. I wouldn't use anything greater than a 50shot without a tune period. But I also personally never use a dry shot, especially if you're not tuning for it since you will NEED more fuel.
so you recommend wet over dry?
 

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IF you were to do it then yes of couse a wet shot dont even look at that dry BS. and YES OF COURSE you need kpro man you serious??? how else are you gonna make sure you are not running to lean..?

but personally nitrous is wack man. when i first got my type s i was hungry for more power like yourself and i considered nitrous because it was the fastest and cheapest option. but then i listened to my mechanic, waited and bought quality parts and i honestly couldnt be happier. when r u gonna use nitrous? and even then all the wheels are gonna do is spin like crazy! and you probably dont have an lsd either or really grippy tires. youre gonna be filling up bottles left and right. and your car off spray will still be slow

just think about it man. hate to see you blow your shit up. just my .2
 

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Guess I should step in and dispel the myths.

6 years ago I ran a WET 75shot of nitrous on my car with no problems for a Summer. Mods at the time were CAI, RH, and Exhaust. I also used an MSD Digital RPM window switch to ensure the nitrous didn't spray past fuel cut, and I used 1 step colder plugs just to be safe. I have a Brockway R920 that reads off the primary o2 and my A/F's were always safe. I would not recommend more then a 75shot without K-pro. Reason for that is because you need to start retarding timing the more you spray.

NOW, if you have K-pro I recommend a DRY setup and larger fuel injectors. While a WET system is the safest way to go with no tuning, a DRY system is safer because the fueling is controlled by K-pro through the injectors...which means no fuel in your intake that could backfire. The largest shot I have sprayed with K-pro was a 2-stage setup with a 105shot for the first stage and a 25shot for the second stage. The car made 312whp on a Dynojet with that setup. I currently have the car jetted with dual 75shots, but I have yet to spray it. I rarely drive the car, and I just recently had to convert back from e85 since my local station tore out their pump. If I can dyno it this Summer I'm hoping to see 330whp+.

Cliffs Notes:
No Kpro = Wet 75shot/RPM Switch/Colder plugs
W/ Kpro = Dry XXXshot/Bigger Injectors/Colder plugs
 

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Guess I should step in and dispel the myths.

6 years ago I ran a WET 75shot of nitrous on my car with no problems for a Summer. Mods at the time were CAI, RH, and Exhaust. I also used an MSD Digital RPM window switch to ensure the nitrous didn't spray past fuel cut, and I used 1 step colder plugs just to be safe. I have a Brockway R920 that reads off the primary o2 and my A/F's were always safe. I would not recommend more then a 75shot without K-pro. Reason for that is because you need to start retarding timing the more you spray.

NOW, if you have K-pro I recommend a DRY setup and larger fuel injectors. While a WET system is the safest way to go with no tuning, a DRY system is safer because the fueling is controlled by K-pro through the injectors...which means no fuel in your intake that could backfire. The largest shot I have sprayed with K-pro was a 2-stage setup with a 105shot for the first stage and a 25shot for the second stage. The car made 312whp on a Dynojet with that setup. I currently have the car jetted with dual 75shots, but I have yet to spray it. I rarely drive the car, and I just recently had to convert back from e85 since my local station tore out their pump. If I can dyno it this Summer I'm hoping to see 330whp+.

Cliffs Notes:
No Kpro = Wet 75shot/RPM Switch/Colder plugs
W/ Kpro = Dry XXXshot/Bigger Injectors/Colder plugs
wow man thats crazy....wonder what that feels like......id still be worried about the longevity of the motor
 

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It's no different then putting a supercharger or turbo on a bone stock motor. All power adders increase the stress on the motor and decrease the life of the motor. Atleast with nitrous you're not running that high stress level all the time.

BTW, my car currently has 96,000 miles on it and I started spraying it around the 70,000 mile mark. Bone stock motor from oil pan to valve cover. Just bolt-ons and spray.
 

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It's no different then putting a supercharger or turbo on a bone stock motor. All power adders increase the stress on the motor and decrease the life of the motor. Atleast with nitrous you're not running that high stress level all the time.

BTW, my car currently has 96,000 miles on it and I started spraying it around the 70,000 mile mark. Bone stock motor from oil pan to valve cover. Just bolt-ons and spray.
im no nitrous guru and wont pretend to be but im sure that when you take an engine running around 200 hp or less and suddenly hit it with 105h more horsepower and then 25 more horsepower there is probably more wear going on there than the slower spooling of a turbo or supercharger. crank, crank bearings, rods, pistons, piston bearings all endure that sudden impact of power...cant nearly be as reliable as a properly tuned and set up turbo or supercharger
 

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That's why you don't start spraying below 4000rpms. At WOT and RPMS above 4000rpms the motor is able to take the hit pretty easy.

You've already shown us your knowledge of nitrous by saying it's "wack man". This is the nitrous section where people that use nitrous or want to use nitrous can come and talk about it. It's not for noobs like yourself to try and spread myths and false rumors about something that you have no clue about.

:stfu:
 

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no myths or false hoods just my opinion....nitrous has a certain reputation for a reason. and im sure you know just as much if not more than the engineers at honda and all the other builders on this site and k20a.org who have spent 10x what youve spent on your nitrous kit on quality turbo and superchargers when it was 10x easier to just go buy and nitrous kit and "set it up all safe-like".

i was interested in nitrous at one point in time and then i started reasearching and reading through the forums like this one and towards the end i changed my mind, and now im speaking my mind, there is and should always be two opinions or sides to a story. its not just about sudden impact of force its also about sudden temperature changes and the heating and cooling of metal as well. as long as you live nitrous will never be as reliable or rewarding as properly executed forced induction. not to mention everyone considers nitrous the easy way out, or cheating: when it comes to nitrous on the street. nitrous on the dragstrip is a whole other ball game.

but you know, because youre the expert.
 

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no myths or false hoods just my opinion....nitrous has a certain reputation for a reason.
It has a reputation because of idiots that don't know how to use it, and movies like Fast and Furious. Let me guess, you probably think your floor pan will drop out when you use it. :rotfl:

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and im sure you know just as much if not more than the engineers at honda and all the other builders on this site and k20a.org who have spent 10x what youve spent on your nitrous kit on quality turbo and superchargers when it was 10x easier to just go buy and nitrous kit and "set it up all safe-like".
Your run on sentence of sarcasm is a lame attempt at bashing my decision for nitrous. I've had all the power adders, and it IS cheaper and easier to go with nitrous and still "set it up all safe-like". If I had the money and desire to go turbo or supercharger I would...but I don't.

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i was interested in nitrous at one point in time and then i started reasearching and reading through the forums like this one and towards the end i changed my mind, and now im speaking my mind, there is and should always be two opinions or sides to a story. its not just about sudden impact of force its also about sudden temperature changes and the heating and cooling of metal as well. as long as you live nitrous will never be as reliable or rewarding as properly executed forced induction. not to mention everyone considers nitrous the easy way out, or cheating: when it comes to nitrous on the street. nitrous on the dragstrip is a whole other ball game.
It's people like you that spread this ridiculous stuff that give nitrous a bad name. Nitrous is a power adder just like a turbo or supercharger. Cry about it all you want, but that's the fact. Your ridiculous claims of temperature changes and heating and cooling of metal are pretty funny though. Let me guess, you think the temperature change will crack your manifold and you'll get that fancy screen from F&F? I guess turbos and superchargers don't make heat now either, according to you. Let alone the fact that they are pressurizing a motor that was designed to run at atmospheric pressure. As for it not being as rewarding...:rotfl:. I love pulling on a supercharged car that makes more power then me. One of the "supercharged" guys even said, "You just can't beat nitrous off the hit like that."

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but you know, because youre the expert.
Now you know.
 

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you just said that youve had all the power adders,,,,,,then you said that you would go turbo or supercharged if you could afford them but you cant, so you dont......dont contradict yourself in the same damn paragraph man.

once again metal heating and cooling are not falsehoods or myths. engines are designed to heat and cool at certain rates depending upon the metals and alloys that they are made from. No one in their right mind will ever say nitrous is more or just as reliable as turbo or supercharger applications....does nitrous provide more bang for the buck? of course. however it comes at a price: greatly accelerated engine wear. and then you might say well im not on spray all the time. and to that i would say well then what the hell is the point of it? except for those 3-5 seconds you are spraying you are just a 190hp rsx.

i dont care about being fast in a straight line, thats why i dropped the whole nitrous idea. its retarded to think about going fast in a front wheel drive street car, if speed is what you want, why did you buy and rsx? idc how much nitrous you have you will never beat an awd car or a car with more displacement, better tires, better power to weight ratio ON NITROUS. lol. sounds more like youre the Fast and Furious fan to me. Youre the kinda guy that puts a body kit and 250 shot of nitrous on a Chevy Cavalier.

The DC5 was made for road racing plain and simple, so go ahead and tell me thats a falsehood.
 

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unless you inherited this car and have alot of money and time to waste or youre just bored, idk who would spray a fwd rsx...just doesnt make sense. 300+ hp and all you will do is spin while an eagle talon or evo or sti is bus lengths ahead.

do you see greddy, HKS, Spoon, Jun Racing, Js Racing, Jackson Racing, COmptech or the other plethora of Japanese/ American performance auto builders making nitrous kits??

even on the drag strip, where i guess you want to be, fwd cars are turboed all day. yes some do supplement with nitrous or meth injection, but turbo is where you make the smooth power that you can crank up and have better control of.
 

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Why are you still talking noob?

I never said my RSX was turbo'd or supercharged. I said that I've had all the different power adders. That means on previous cars, not just the RSX. Don't put words in my mouth.

I honestly don't know what the fuck you're arguing about. You've never used nitrous, but somehow you think you know everything about it. I got news for ya, your mechanic told you to stay away from nitrous because he thinks you're an idiot. Now everyone that sees this thread will think the same thing about you. Why are you even in the nitrous section if you know nothing about it and think that the RSX is a road course only car? Maybe you're just upset that my RSX would shit all over anything that you've ever owned. U mad bruh?

Here, watch this vid of my lil' 4 cylinder that only makes 312whp pulling a 380whp SUPERCHARGED Cobra.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXKCmvreKTk&oref=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXKCmvreKTk&has_verified=1
 

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Btw, my RSX is not a 190hp car. All Motor it made 207whp on a Dynojet and 220whp on a dynapak. :thumbsup:

It's pointless to keep arguing with you because you are an obvious know it all jack off that doesn't really know anything. So any further replies from you in this thread will be ignored. The original poster was asking questions about nitrous because he is interested in using it. To the OP, if you have any questions about nitrous, please feel free to pm me. Ignore the comments from the F&F douchebag.
 

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im also looking to run nitrous. got 600 cc injectors and im on e85. 265 lph dwerks pump. what else do I need change? also got kpro and built internals etc.
 
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