Hondata announces Greddy RSX-S and Civic Si reflash

3719 Views 109 Replies 27 Participants Last post by emfollin, Apr 7, 2004

Hondata

Discussion Starter · Mar 5, 2004

Hondata announces the release of the reflash for the Greddy turbo RSX Type S and Greddy Turbo Civic SI. The reflash programs improve power and driveability.

RSX-S Greddy upgrade

Civic Si Greddy upgrade

See less See more

2

21 - 40 of 110 Posts

millo

· #21 · Mar 6, 2004

The e-manage is password protected and u cannot "tweak" it unless u have something like the Profec E-01. You have to send the e-manage in to hondata as well to get reflashed so it is still quite important unless u plan on getting the K pro.

p220

· #22 · Mar 6, 2004

zulusTypeS said:
HOndata, at the top of your graph, it says FLY WHEEL POWER, so is that number not a Wheel horse power? or is it just a name?

flywheel horsepower aka crank horsepower is different then wheel horsepower. this is still a good imprvement over stock greddy kit for those like me that aren't looking for stupid horespower.

Luciferi

· #23 · Mar 6, 2004

Will the SI flash work in the RSX base? If so, will it work with auto?

emfollin

· #24 · Mar 6, 2004

It is wheel HP, that is a known mistake with that dyno.

RsxManJoe

· #25 · Mar 6, 2004

Whats the purpose of this flash when you can just get a dyno tune which would probably be even smoother for cheaper? I think the program is great but with tuning theres no need for this program.

p220

· #26 · Mar 6, 2004

emfollin said:
It is wheel HP, that is a known mistake with that dyno.

if that's the case that's very nice. i wonder if it's with the cat(probably) and a <3 in exhaust(probably greddy evo)

emfollin

· #27 · Mar 6, 2004

That's funny because I was just researching the K-pro and the GReddy flash and the K-pro just seems like such a wiser choice.

stockhonda

· #28 · Mar 6, 2004

Joe,
The purpose of the new base ECU flash would be so that you don't have to fuck with the Greddy MAP. And so that you'll have a smoother base to tune from. Most people don't want to bother tuning with the Emanage, because once you change it beyond that stock map that they give you, Greddy will not honor any warranty you have with the Emanage system.

emfollin

· #29 · Mar 6, 2004

stockhonda said:
Joe,
The purpose of the new base ECU flash would be so that you don't have to fuck with the Greddy MAP. And so that you'll have a smoother base to tune from. Most people don't want to bother tuning with the Emanage, because once you change it beyond that stock map that they give you, Greddy will not honor any warranty you have with the Emanage system.

Greddy won't warranty this flash. In the instructions it says that GReddy doesn't offer any warranty due to the installation factor. Why not just buy the K-pro and get the GReddy flash built into it and then fine tune from there? It is still only $500 and you don't have to worry about emanage wiring and you can change anything right from the ECU, no piggy backs.

p220

· #30 · Mar 6, 2004

emfollin said:
That's funny because I was just researching the K-pro and the GReddy flash and the K-pro just seems like such a wiser choice.

how so?? the k-pro would be wise if u are looking to get higher hp numbers as opposed to just wanting to keep stock internals and not have to worry about tuning costs etc.

teamxrsx

· #31 · Mar 7, 2004

The greddy hondata flash is only a wise choice if you like the fact that you are running a generally safe and conservative 8psi on stock internals. If you want more power than about 270WHP than you will want to up your boost, then the K-pro is the only way to fly, up to about 11.3psi. Which will be over 300WHP.

emfollin

· #32 · Mar 7, 2004

Yes you are right. However, I just feel that the extra $300 is worth the flexibility of tuning and the ability to just set it back to stock when selling the car time comes. With the E-manage you can't touch a thing. It is locked from GReddy. Many things can play factors in the tuning of a car and it is probably best to have the car tuned after the turbo install, especially if this is your only car. I will most likely get the K-pro, not just to see bigger numbers, but to see a perfect tune and make the car run damn near perfect.

emfollin

· #33 · Mar 7, 2004

teamxrsx said:
The greddy hondata flash is only a wise choice if you like the fact that you are running a generally safe and conservative 8psi on stock internals. If you want more power than about 270WHP than you will want to up your boost, then the K-pro is the only way to fly, up to about 11.3psi. Which will be over 300WHP.

True, but another factor is having the perfect tune, not just huge numbers. Another factor is that the E-manage seems to cause lots of problems with the kit because of the wiring; why not just get K-pro and not have to worry about all that.

teamxrsx

· #34 · Mar 7, 2004

You are correct, but i have a perfectly good working and well wired emanage. I see the problems people have with them....all we seem to do is tell people to make sure they are wired right, and to make sure they don't have a old emanage flash....so on and so forth. I am gonna run the K-pro....but i want more than 300WHP when ever i want to up my boost, the emanage does not bother me, its the fact that i can't tune it the way i want to, and that i can't control certain things that i would like to (i.e. cam phasing). The only thing i have against the emanage is that it cannot perform as well as the ECU can and because it basically has to trick the ECU, it has it's limits. Some people would rather not have to tune the motor or can't afford the dyno time to do such a thing correctly. Which is where the Hondata GReddy flash would work the best and still be able to enjoy cam phasing. The K-pro does come with a couple of pre-set base maps to work off of, plus it would allow you to get to the tuner once the ECU is re-installed.

I aggre with you emfollin, about the k-pro. It's just that, some people would not really benefit from it and it would be a waste of money. IF down the road they wanted to upgrade from the Hondata GReddy flash, they could pay the extra chedda and send the ECU back in for the k-pro upgrade.

See less See more

emfollin

· #35 · Mar 7, 2004

Yes exactly. I just figure after I am going to spend $3000 or so on a turbo kit and all, I might as well make sure it is running perfect. And you probably said the best thing I've ever heard, "Nothing performs as well as the stock ECU." That is absolutely correct. The e-Manage only tricks the ECU whereas the K-pro will actually just control everything.

teamxrsx

· #36 · Mar 7, 2004

emfollin said:
Yes exactly. I just figure after I am going to spend $3000 or so on a turbo kit and all, I might as well make sure it is running perfect. And you probably said the best thing I've ever heard, "Nothing performs as well as the stock ECU." That is absolutely correct. The e-Manage only tricks the ECU whereas the K-pro will actually just control everything.

Excatly!!! You can't beat the fact that it's the ECU thats controlling everything, no piggy backs to mess with, less to go wrong. Plus, the sacred cam timing control!!!!!! haha

teamxrsx

· #37 · Mar 7, 2004

God................ i'm addicted to boost!!!

emfollin

· #38 · Mar 7, 2004

Yeah, I need to send my ECU to Hondata again and get the K-pro, I'll just run the program equivalent to Hondata#4 now and then once turbo comes, switch to the Greddy map and fine tune it... life is good :driving:

teamxrsx

· #39 · Mar 7, 2004

well, there is not a Greddy map on the k-pro....they have a rev hard map tuned for 7psi, which should get you close until you get it on the dyno. Just don't drive it hard until you get it tuned. Try and schedual dyno time soon after you get the GReddy turbo, so you can enjoy the k-pro to it's fullest while staying on the safe side.

emfollin

· #40 · Mar 7, 2004

Why isn't Hondata including the GReddy map in with the K-pro? That doesn't sound right.

21 - 40 of 110 Posts

This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.