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I'm sure a car equipped with a 50shot and CAI would pretty much murder a car with Hondata and a CAI. Well, murder might be an overexaggeration...get the best of both worlds - nitrous + reprogrammable Hondata ECU!
 

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thats what im thinkin both hondata and nitrous... how much of a difference in tenths of a second would be for nitrous or hondata
 

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figure with hondata you get +10 hp at most with a cai

with the nitrous you get s +50 hp boost
 

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[email][email protected][/email] said:
50 shot = 37hp (approximately)
I was under the impression from reading in the nitrous section on this site that a 50shot typically dynoed at 50+ hp to the wheels.

And CAI + Hondata is more than 10whp..isn't it more like 20whp? CAI alone gives 10whp.
 

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Hondata can be like 20hp. Plus its all the time. Unless you dragrace for money. hondata vs 50 shot you should deff go for hondata. Also, it is a one time cost.
 

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Look at kindles sig he ran faster with hondata #4 than with a 50 shot. The hondata is linear the 50 shot is anything but, you are also going to loose alot of traction.
 

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I'm sure a car equipped with a 50shot and CAI would pretty much murder a car with Hondata and a CAI. Well, murder might be an overexaggeration...get the best of both worlds - nitrous + reprogrammable Hondata ECU!
Isn't nos not compatable with hondata since it advances timing?
 

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Isn't nos not compatable with hondata since it advances timing?
Nitrous is NOT compatable with the Hondata reflash currently on the market because it advances timing, just as you said. however, check out www.hondata.com and you'll see that they are about to release the reprogrammable ECU that will be compatable with nitrous and F/I applications. That's what I was referring to.
 

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i tihnk it means 50 hp at the flywheel, but you lose some on the way through the drive train?
 

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It all depends on the car and type of NOS system. I saw a EX civic gain 64 whp off of a 50 shot. Weird!
 

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No it didnt. 50 shot means 50 theoretical horsepower at the flywheel. Add real world conditions and drive train loss and you lose at least 15%.
 

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Okay, tell me what I have seen. Those doses of 50,75,100 shots are not as accurate as you think. Theyu are closer to those #'s if the car is stock but if it is modded the better breathing helps a whole lot.

ex. a good cat-back will give about 5-7 hp on a stock car, on a F/I car a good cat-back can yeild 4 or 5 times as much.
 

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i think i read in a magazine where after they used bottle heater and got the bottle pressure to a good amount they actually did get more than they were supposed to (like 55 oout of a 50 shot or something im not exactly sure on the #'s but it was something like that)
 

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Just get the best of both worlds and run Hondata 4 with nitrous. :)
Okay don't, I don't want anybody's motor blowing. hehe
But yea, the best of both worlds is the way to go. Anything is possible with enough knowledge and experimenting.
 

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eddie123 said:
Look at kindles sig he ran faster with hondata #4 than with a 50 shot. The hondata is linear the 50 shot is anything but, you are also going to loose alot of traction.
He actually ran a tad bit quicker w/ the 50 shot over Hondata.;)
 
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