typeRwithouttheR said:toda kit (cams, valves/valve springs/, head gasket, connecting rods, pistons, and crank) , mugen ecu, hondata i.m.g., complete race head, custom 2.75 mandrel bent cat-back, spoon axle back, mugen cool air... $7000, this is a decent NA set-up....
I've lurked here enough to have read more than one post from you bashing American made products, while espousing JDM companies. Yet here you are calling yourself God, touting a vapor-ware American made engine kit.Bluewind said:One word, "HYTECH" (God has spoken)
thatguywiththersx said:Yes remember the search button is your friend. I would say do the bolts ons if you dont already have them (CAI, 2.5in-3in catback exhaust system, toda or comptech race header, IMG) and purchase the new k-pro ems. Then I would say put the rest of the money in the bank and leave it there until some really good cams come out. Hopefully edo's will come out soon. Toda cams are great but there is much more power waiting to be found in the cams of the K-series. Then i would suggest some valve train upgrades (springs and retainers, and then a 2.2-2.3L sleeved block from IB. Since you get to pick your compression and bore it can be very verstile and meant any ones needs. For the street you should be okay with up to a 12:1 wiht good gas and good tuning. If its an all race motor i would say 13:1 or more would be you best bet. If you dont have the bolt ons its gonna cost more than 7k, but you might be close to it if you already have the basics.
TypeRwithoutthetypeR, It would not be a good idea to use toda pistons with the mugen ecu as the ecu is not tuned for the high compression ratio, besides the Toda kit comes with a reflash anyway that is specific for their cams. The tune on the mugen ecu was done for type r cams. Also there you be no way to use a 2.75in catback with the spoon axleback. You could have custom 2.75in b-pipe made and attach the spoon axle back to it but it would be pointless because the spoon axle back is only 60.5mm and also necks down at the flange to mate with the stock exhaust. This you hurt alot of the gains from the exhuast system. It would be much smarter to just by a system the is 65mm( aproxx. 2.5in) that maintains that diameter all the way back or do a custom one that is larger that also maintains the larger diameter without necking down. Also on a mugen airbox you not gonna see the same gains as with a CAI. IT simply wasnt designed for all out power. It was desinged for circut racing and this is evident in the design(throttle response, no chance of hydrolock). It was also designed to work best inconjunction with the mugen bumper. So for a drag motor it wouldnt be your best option. Even with the new N2 cams and the setup you described you would be lucky too make 240whp dynapack, and you certainly wouldnt do it on the dynojet.
thatguywiththersx said:i think its kinda ghetto to run with no axle back and even then its still gonna neck down at the flange. And the mugen ecu is not tuned for the 12.5:1 comp ration of the toda pistons (12.9 with the gasket). Its tune is for the 11.5:1 of the stock type r. For 1g you could buy the fully tunabla k pro anyway. Its pointless to buy a type r motor esp. if you are going to swap the rods,pistons,and cams you anyway.