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im planning on 11.7:1 compression wiseco pistons w/milled head and block to up the compression with a 2 layer head gasket.
Why would ya want to mill the block or head? Why not get higher compression pistons? My thinking is this, say something goes wrong, you warp the head or block slighty, then you can mill it to fix it, rather than having to scrap it since you have already removed some off. Same as boring .20" over, alot of people do that, but why if motor isnt hurt? If you damage sleeves, you cant bore anymore without sleeving otherwise its scrap. My two cents.


Another note, you sound like you think like me, lol. I currently have my motor at speed shop. I got screwed over by a "friend" that does this on the side, so the speed shop is rebuilding the motor. My setup is Wiseco 11.7:1 pistons with deep pockets, BC flatface valves, Cometic .027" HG, etc...I have plans of running 2-3 stages totallying 250shot. Also, we ceramic coated the piston tops to help with detonation so we can safely run more N2O. If it blows, it blows, we will rebuild and go 13.5: in a K24 block and 250shot!! hehe:p








Also, in on this thread, I like I like!!!

I am new to nitrous and KPro, I am wondering why nobody is openly admitting to running wet shot with Kpro, I am sure some are. Wouldnt it work the same, just wire it up like a dry? My thinking is this, say I got stage 1 @ 50shot, stage 2 @ 75shot. If on dry, I can not up the shot without a tune or safely do it. But say if I got a close race next round, on wet, I can change jets to 100 in stage 2 and be fine, worse case pull 1-2* in timing, and really dont have to touch the fuel, or can add a bit to play safe.

Also, if I go dry shot, could I run wet shot nozzles for a dual stage direct port?

By the way, I am planning on with drag radials doing 50shot from the launch if it will stick, then running stage 2 with 50-75shot, and if stage 3 go with 50-75shot. On slicks be 75shot from launch, 75 shot in stage 2, and 100shot in stage 3, unless it hooks then run 125 stage 2 and no 3 stages.
 

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Also, in on this thread, I like I like!!!

I am new to nitrous and KPro, I am wondering why nobody is openly admitting to running wet shot with Kpro, I am sure some are. Wouldnt it work the same, just wire it up like a dry? My thinking is this, say I got stage 1 @ 50shot, stage 2 @ 75shot. If on dry, I can not up the shot without a tune or safely do it. But say if I got a close race next round, on wet, I can change jets to 100 in stage 2 and be fine, worse case pull 1-2* in timing, and really dont have to touch the fuel, or can add a bit to play safe.

Also, if I go dry shot, could I run wet shot nozzles for a dual stage direct port?

By the way, I am planning on with drag radials doing 50shot from the launch if it will stick, then running stage 2 with 50-75shot, and if stage 3 go with 50-75shot. On slicks be 75shot from launch, 75 shot in stage 2, and 100shot in stage 3, unless it hooks then run 125 stage 2 and no 3 stages.

People do try to but we dont support that here, theres been many disscussions on that topic some even in recent threads, you look around a little you'll find them

As for the DP i dont see why that wouldnt work and i was actually thinking on using the idea just not direct port just an intake shot
 

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well, on that big a shot intake injected is probly a bad idea, I have thought bout the Zex air filter for dry shot for my first stage, and then DPing the other(s). I have read the threads bout wet shot, and know that nobody supports it. Just dang, I hate to have a thousand tunes for any situation, cause my deal is, if I have a tune for a larger shot, I am gonna use it, instead of being smart on some races and keeping the motor healthier longer. For example no need to spray 150-250shot against a car 2-3seconds slower, but I am still gonna do it if I have it, haha.
 

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lol ya i would hope so but i need k-pro befire i can do anything unless i go wet, but i dont if i want to deal with all that.
 

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^^everyone is talking about HUGe shots lol i just want k-pro and like a 75 shot!!! lol
you'll want more eventually lol

how are you guys running a pressure regulator? Or are you converting to a return setup with one? Try to up the pressure to increase the injectors.
not running one, and what are you talking about "increase the injecotrs"?

lol ya i would hope so but i need k-pro befire i can do anything unless i go wet, but i dont if i want to deal with all that.

smart man :thumbsup:
 

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by turning the fuel pressure up you can increase the output of the injectors. Basically taking our 310cc injectors to more, depending on what you increased the fuel pressure to say would be comparable to 390cc or even like 410cc, for example. Its a way to cheat your injectors, and not have to buy bigger if you need just a lil more. All injectors are rated their cc's at a certain fuel pressure, I think ours is like 52psi or something, normal hondas are like at 44 or something like that. So really ours arent any bigger than say the Prelude's 270cc injectors cause of the fuel pressure difference.
 

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by turning the fuel pressure up you can increase the output of the injectors. Basically taking our 310cc injectors to more, depending on what you increased the fuel pressure to say would be comparable to 390cc or even like 410cc, for example. Its a way to cheat your injectors, and not have to buy bigger if you need just a lil more. All injectors are rated their cc's at a certain fuel pressure, I think ours is like 52psi or something, normal hondas are like at 44 or something like that. So really ours arent any bigger than say the Prelude's 270cc injectors cause of the fuel pressure difference.
i could be wrong but i feel like doing that you would be putting extra strain on them making them more likely to fail, i get what your saying tho and the concept makes sense i just dont think its worth it, IMO. However something that does work well you could look into is taking the stock injectors and taking the tips off of them and the screen out, im not sure of the exact process but it bores them out to about 520 or 550 i think, my gf's brother did this with my stock injectors when i got new ones and it worked well.
 

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yeah I am gonna do that for sure, I have been looking at several results, everyone that I have seen that they cc tested came back at 517-522, and for those that had them cleaned and tested came back 519-521cc. I am thinking with my setup, according to RC I need to run 419cc if I run a wet shot, and if I run dry shot, figuring 700bhp, which I hope with full shot to be around 550-600whp it says I need 946cc to run 80% cycle. So really with a dry shot and modding stock injectors, according to it I can spray up to about 100shot. With a wet shot, I can just run 420cc and maybe be ok, though for safety I will be upgrading the fuel pump.

What size injectors is everyone running on theirs, and with what shots?


Dang, I cant wait, I need the car done already so I can do this, OMG I got the laughing juice obsession already, havent even started out any on the car and wanting more, heheheheehe
 

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yeah I am gonna do that for sure, I have been looking at several results, everyone that I have seen that they cc tested came back at 517-522, and for those that had them cleaned and tested came back 519-521cc. I am thinking with my setup, according to RC I need to run 419cc if I run a wet shot, and if I run dry shot, figuring 700bhp, which I hope with full shot to be around 550-600whp it says I need 946cc to run 80% cycle. So really with a dry shot and modding stock injectors, according to it I can spray up to about 100shot. With a wet shot, I can just run 420cc and maybe be ok, though for safety I will be upgrading the fuel pump.

What size injectors is everyone running on theirs, and with what shots?


Dang, I cant wait, I need the car done already so I can do this, OMG I got the laughing juice obsession already, havent even started out any on the car and wanting more, heheheheehe

I have 750's with the stock pump, with 295hp I am running a 54% duty at redline.

You know that there is physical limit to the amount of nitrous injected into a motor.
After so much the motor can not ingest any more and the nitrous starts to back up into the intake.:noes:
I want to say 100 shot per liter is the limit.
 

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I have 520's with stock pump and i usually run between a 75 shot and 100 but ive had a couple of cases where i used the 125shot and on that i think i hit about 70% duty
 

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Anything over 100shot I would recommend DP only, cause your right, going through the pipe into manifold will cause it to puddle inside.


Hey guys, off subject, but anyone know anybody selling a FD, 5.06-5.4? I am gonna check theck the for sale though now.
 

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I need some speed in my life. I curretly do a 13.7 w/ a 2.1 60 ft. I want 12's! 100 shot in the works. I'm just trying to figure out this whole N20 thing. I never messed with any type of F/I so this will be my first shot. Does anyone have pictures of there engine bay so I can see some dry shot setups? PS do you guys like Dynotune's Nitrous Kits?
 
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