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1. Can you run the TODA cams and valvesprings with KPRO?

2. Can you set your redline to 9000 with KPRO??

3. Do you believe that the ECU reflash that comes with the N2 kit would truly be as good as doing your own tuning with KPRO?

4. Would you NEED the ITR IM to run the TODA cams? I'm guessing it wouldn't hurt anything.
 

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You can use Toda cams with the Kpro,but Id limit the Cam advance to avoid piston to valve contact.
You can set you rev limit to nearly whatever you want it to be.
The ECU reflash with the N2 kit would be good,but anything non programmable cant be better than the Kpro.If the initial program of the N2 reflash is better than a certain Kpro program,all you need is a few hours of tuning max.
You dont need the ITR IM,but of course youd probably gain some power from putting it on.
 

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1. ? what are u trying 2 say?

2. yes

3. yes, toda knows their shit and if run their set up(cai, toda race header, mugen twin loop and itr manifold i dont think u can get that much more power out of it(5-10whp) max

4. u dont need it but it will give u a lot more top end power
 

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RSXSAV69 said:
1. ? what are u trying 2 say?

2. yes

3. yes, toda knows their shit and if run their set up(cai, toda race header, mugen twin loop and itr manifold i dont think u can get that much more power out of it(5-10whp) max

4. u dont need it but it will give u a lot more top end power

A)Hondata does the flashes for Toda cams

B)Their is still plenty of room to make additional power given the other variables (i.e. bolt ons, other parts)

C) You don't need it, but to maximize the power output of the particular setup, a programmable ECU reigns supreme over any reflash. A reflash is not a save all, fix all considering that all cars and conditions are different. The reflash was designed on a specific car, with a specific setup. Unless you are running the exact same setup in the exact same location as the Toda car (and even then) there is more power to be made.
 

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One thing to note is that if you have the reflash from toda all you have to do is call toda and ask them for your invoice number. Then when you get the K-pro give them the number and you will get it for 500 instead of the full price. Just to throw my 2 cents in I have the Toda N2 and can't wait to make it a sweet package with the k-pro.
 

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One thing to note is that if you have the reflash from toda all you have to do is call toda and ask them for your invoice number. Then when you get the K-pro give them the number and you will get it for 500 instead of the full price. Just to throw my 2 cents in I have the Toda N2 and can't wait to make it a sweet package with the k-pro.

One thing to note... after you get the K-pro, you will no longer have the N2 flash on your ECU. You will need to get the N2 calibration from toda on a CDROM. That is $300 I believe. They might not charge you $300 if you already have purchased the cams/flash from them though. But that $300 calibration will save you lots of $$ in dyno tuning time after you get the K-pro.
 

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One thing to note... after you get the K-pro, you will no longer have the N2 flash on your ECU. You will need to get the N2 calibration from toda on a CDROM. That is $300 I believe. They might not charge you $300 if you already have purchased the cams/flash from them though. But that $300 calibration will save you lots of $$ in dyno tuning time after you get the K-pro.
I feel I should add that dyno tuning is still desired, but the Toda N2 maps will provide an excellent starting point and save you money. If you are looking for max power, you still need to dyno tune.
 

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I feel I should add that dyno tuning is still desired, but the Toda N2 maps will provide an excellent starting point and save you money. If you are looking for max power, you still need to dyno tune.

yup, that's what I was getting at. The N2 calibration saves you many dyno hrs... but you still need to dyno ontop of the n2 maps for optimal performance.
 

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That is correct. I spoke directly with the people at AKH Trading, and that was their exact response. The calibration they provide for $300 dollars is merely a base map to begin tuning the N2s, which is kind of obvious considering that once again all flashes work differently with varying cars and conditions.
 
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