Not just that, but the Hytech kit will not pass emissions, runs 12:1 compression (versus Toda not even touching the bottom end;11:1), and would cost an arm and a leg to install.TypeSFanatik said:hytech has more power. but cost more then most cars installed
toda is about 40 whp less and about 6g less as well so spend the 6g for 50 more whp.
So did Hytech just waste a whole bunch of money in R&D since no one is touching their kit at all?syle said:For reliability, no one can really say since no one has the Hytech kit. I've never heard of a Toda kit blowing.
:wtf: What are they waiting for???!!! This kit has been takled about and analyzed maybe a million times. It's been tested and reviewed by Honda Tuning and other Rice mags. That's pretty ridiculous, but all the better for TODA, and CN. :dontknow:syle said:No, they just haven't started selling it yet.
Yea I knew that from EDOs old posts. The only really good thing I've heard about the Hytech kit which could be biased was that with over 280whp it still maintains stock Type S drivability. Not that Toda's doesn't but it's not replacing everything and producing the crazy number Hytechs is.Glimpse said:The power from Hytech comes from the cams and tuning. You can get similar results for a whole lot cheaper.
But do the K20, F20,and F22 all have the same deck height? If not, then you're gonna at least need new rods. I personally plan on getting the 90.7 F22 crank and getting forged rods and pistons. Someone already has a plan to sell this and it should be under 2KFireHawk said:If you are gonna change the bottom end, just use the s2000 rotating assembly. It will work with the K series b/c the f was developed with the k. you could keep the stock 2.0l and 9000 rpm safety with toda top end, or get the newer version and get 2.1l and keep the stock or 8600 rpm redline. surely the s2000 rotating assembly with the toda top end would equal or better the hytech kit, plus your getting genuine honda parts.
just my two cents thoough
Toda makes a few more things than that. Imagine this setup and how quickly it adds up:syle said:Well, apples are nice, but I like oranges too...
Toda is just cams, springs, and an ECU. Hytech is a full engine kit. What do you think will perform better?