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when i did my k24a2 swap i ordered off ebay an exedy stage 1 clutch kit. the kit came in an exedy box, with an exedy clutch disk, pressure plate (cant remember the color) exedy release bearing and alignment tool. Also came with ugly ass exedy stickers. I payed 250

The clutch disk had a problem and shattered around one of the springs, so it was removed and replaced. well my new release bearing spun out this time and bent teeth on the original exedy pressure plate, as it snapped and jammed sideways.

i went on eBay looking for just a pressure plate (i had a brand new oem acura bearing to put in) I wasn't able to find anything except the expensive act extreme pressure plate.

I noticed that f1 stuff that sells cheap and ordered the stage one specifically for the pressure plate since it was the same plate pictured in all their ad's regardless of the stage. I figured I was going to receive some shitty clutch made by F1, since thats what the ad described.

this is what they had pictured looks just like the exedy without the purpleish color and company logo.


here is the link
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...STRK:MEWN:IT&viewitem=&item=150162733170&rd=1

well heres what I got today in a plain brown box.


wtf!!? at first i thought it was a rip off so i ran down and grabbed my old disk to see if the logo's were all haggard like this one. well...

here is the first one


pressure plate also exedy


bearing is made by mach 1 and total junk, good thing i got the acura one


i payed 150 shipped. looks like F1 isn't a clutch manufacture they just wholesale out oem parts and build kits...

might be something to look into...
 

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description of item on ebay

F1 RACING STAGE 1 clutch kit is an upgrade heavy-duty clutch set up for those who seeks streetable high peformance clutch. It is a direct factory replacement parts thus no modifications are needed. The clutch kit includes only the highest grade components and it's ready for hot action on street and track. The premium organic friction material for high heat tolerance, quick recovery, good friction and long life. The heavy-duty sprung center unit boasts heat treated springs and retainer rivets for the maximum power and durability. The F1 Racing pressure plate features special single diaphragm design to increase clamp load. It features induction hardened diaphragm, CNC machined castings, stronger drive straps and rivets. F1 Racing pressure plate provides smooth and precise feel with easy modulation. All F1 Racing pressure plate is load tested on a special testing tool for quality assurance.

* This complete clutch kit includes: F1 Racing Heavy-Duty Pressure Plate
* F1 Racing Full Face Organic Street Disc (216 mm, 24 spline)
* Release Bearing
* Alignment Tool
* Instruction Manual


i dont see anything about exedy...it says it on my invoice i got in the box..weird

the company is speed solution international, the ebay seller company is called gripforce and the clutches called f1...the directions for clutch installation say "installing your new f1 racing clutch"

and the invoice says

qty ordered 1 - F1 Racing Stage 1 Clutch Kit-k20 - price 132.00
qty ordered 1 - Exedy Clutch Kit - price 0.00
 

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I read that alot of company use exedy parts. They will change out the fiction material.
From http://forums.clubrsx.com/search.php?searchid=6278021 post #6
hey guys, I wanted to chime in here to clarify a few things.

A lot of clutch manufacturers use Exedy/Daikin parts in their clutches. The reason being, is that making castings and stampings of discs and pressure plates is VERY expensive, and therefore cost prohibitive for most clutch companies. So they start with some of our pieces and modify them in their own unique way. Be it new friction surface or upgraded diapraghm or whatever.

Now, with that being said, I must also mention that these companies start with our OE Replacement diapraghms and discs. BUT, our stage 1 and 2 clutches have an ENTIRELY different casting for the pressure plate than our OE casting. It is much thicker and designed for the increased clampload. Plus our disc dampers are upgraded over the OE as well. Theirs arent. And lastly, we use a completely different organic compound in our stage 1 clutches than our OE replacement compound.

So in summary, our Stage 1 & 2 clutches use virtually NO parts designed for an OE replacement clutch, whereas most of theirs are almost entirely comprised of our OE parts. With their modifications of course.

I hope this clears the air a bit.
 

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i would also like some more insight into how these F1 racing clutches hold up. i plan on ordering one off ebay with the light weight flywheel.
 

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btw, i fucked up and accidentally ordered the base model clutch kit...but i contacted them thinkin they messed up and sent me the wrong pressure plate. guy pointed out i was wrong and i felt like a moron. got ahold of a used spec 2 pressure plate, used my brand new oem honda release bearing and the exedy stage 1 disk. runs great
 

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So, F1 = Exedy? :) Looks like I'm in. Damn, these are cheap on eBay. Gonna go for the Stage 3 clutch disc, pressure plate and flywheel combo!!!
 

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Nice. Sounds good so far. So, are both the stage 1 and stage 2 discs rebranded Exedy discs? I'm going for a 6 puck (stage 3). Hoping that's a rebranded Exedy too.
 

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Nice. Sounds good so far. So, are both the stage 1 and stage 2 discs rebranded Exedy discs? I'm going for a 6 puck (stage 3). Hoping that's a rebranded Exedy too.

yes, its the generic brand but its the same stuff. Same material and everything from Exedy just doesn't have the name on it.
 

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yes, its the generic brand but its the same stuff. Same material and everything from Exedy just doesn't have the name on it.
I just got a message from them regarding the Stage 3. Here it is:

Different clutch manufactures like ACT/Centerforce use components from various clutch manufactures. Depending on the application also. There are times when there is actually only one manufacture that makes that pressure plate or disc. So for all the clutch companies to sell them under their name they may powder coat them a different color. Also depending on the stage they may heat treat them to strengthen the pressure plate and add more clamp load. Our F1 Stage 3 is a Exedy pressure plate but the disc is either Rabco or Clutchnet. Different companies source different parts for their kits and there is nothing wrong with it. We always us high quality manufactures. In that forum post you listed the disc was Exedy. So it just depends what stage you are getting and we tailor them to hold the torque that is listed. If you have further questions you can call me at 562-905-3233 ext 107. Thanks.

Art - Sales Team
Speed Solution International, Inc. dba Gripforce
1350 West Lambert Road, Suite B
Brea, CA 92821 USA
(562) 905-3233 ext. 107
(562) 905-3238 (Fax)
www.gripforce.com
 

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I just got a message from them regarding the Stage 3. Here it is:
Exactly man, that is pretty much the same email I got from them when I ordered. I'm really glad I tried them out and it came through. I haven't regretted a moment of purchasing this item. I only have the stage 2 but that's good enough for what I need. As for the flywheel, people who don't like them, I don't know what to say. Maybe it was installed wrong or something, but mine was done right and I love that to. Let us know what you decide to do.
 

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Thought I'd throw this in. I ordered the stage 2 F1 Racing kit from Gripforce and the stage 2 comes with what appears to be an Exedy pressure plate, and a ClutchNet disc. Came with Nachi bearings and a pilot bushing.

I also bought a stage 3 F1 Racing kit from someone that never installed it. The disk (6 puck actually) looks like a ClutchNet one too (just based on the hub design) but didn't have any markings. And this was for a clutch that was bought over a year ago.

F1 seems to put out some quality stuff... Trust me on the ClutchNet discs... Those springs are not going to pop out!
 
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