[BlackNite]

some guys on honda-tech say u can make the same power with stock type-s cams and that the only difference between ITR cams and the type-s is more duration, so the hp gain is not worth it maybe (1-4whp). could someone clarify this i plan on doing itr cams when i get some cash saved....

Maybe they were talking about Type-S cams with Honata flash vs Stock ITR. If so, THEN that statement would be close to accurate. But if you do the same thing with the ITR cams (Hondata flash) then the ITR cams still walk over the Type-S cams/w flash.

 

[BlackNite]

That's the same thing I have ran on stock cams, stock tires.

Notice the guys avatar on honda-tech?

I understand where you are coming from, but I'm sure you'll always have more HP out of ITR cams than stock Type-S cams given equal conditions. I think your point is that you get HP, but the extra HP is not worth the money correct? I myself am going the ITR route, but my setup will be mild (ITR cams, ITR IM, K-pro with ITR flash.. eventually dyno tuned, S2K springs, RSR exahust). My goal is about 210 WHP with my 18's on. Without changing my header to say the Toda or DC race header, I will be hard pressed to reach my goal that easily with stock cams.

 

[BlackNite]

ha it's u... u may want to explain ur position on type r cams, some of these guys might be too lazy to click the link lol.

I read the link :wavey:

 

[BlackNite]

But wouldn't you expect for someone with say toda c's or crower's big cams to pull on you if you raced? I mean what's the point if it's not noticeable.

Bottom line, I would be pissed if my cammed car couldn't or could barely pull on a stock cammed car.

I'd be upset if I had ITR cams + ITR flash and lost to a Hondata #4 stock cam car. But ITR cams + ITR flash > Hondata #4 so I'll sleep just fine. Some people can rest just knowing there are bigger/better cams available. My small wallet dictates that I must go the ITR route