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ROTORA or STOPTECH rotor upgrade

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#1 ·
Was thinkin of upgrading my rotors soon and was really interested in just getting the Rotora rotors and then I came across Iliac's (James) recently installed Stoptech rotors. Are the ST have better or comparable quality than Rotora?
I think this is what he took:
http://www.stoptech.com/cgi/Products.cgi

thanks.
 
#2 ·
Might want to specify whether you are wanting the direct replacement or big brake kit. That way you can get better responses.
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And our website is in a funky configuration, so that link won't work.
 
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Stoptech said:
Might want to specify whether you are wanting the direct replacement or big brake kit. That way you can get better responses.
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And our website is in a funky configuration, so that link won't work.
Oh, just the direct replacement ones, not the big brake kit.

The stage 2 kits, you could only get the rotors in oem diameter/size?
 
#6 ·
munlit said:
Oh, just the direct replacement ones, not the big brake kit.

The stage 2 kits, you could only get the rotors in oem diameter/size?
Yes, only in OEM diameter, unless you go with the big brake kit. Going with larger rotors would require a new caliper or caliper extension. We don't believe in such products since they throw the brake balance off in a car. Although you have more heat capacity, brake balance shifted, and stopping distances grow longer.
 
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Stoptech said:
Yes, only in OEM diameter, unless you go with the big brake kit. Going with larger rotors would require a new caliper or caliper extension. We don't believe in such products since they throw the brake balance off in a car. Although you have more heat capacity, brake balance shifted, and stopping distances grow longer.
Oic, thats good to know. I always have the impression that the larger rotors were beneficial in terms of performance/upgrade.

Any discounts that is goin on right now that you know?
 
#10 ·
munlit said:
Oic, thats good to know. I always have the impression that the larger rotors were beneficial in terms of performance/upgrade.

Any discounts that is goin on right now that you know?
larger rotors are more advantageous for more heat capacity. The brake system is completely limited by the adhesion of the tires on the car. The majority of cars come with almost perfect brake balance. ABS and other driver aids help keep cars under control while on the limits. If the only the front rotor was enlarged using a stock caliper, then there would be more brake torque applied. Good thing? Not necessarily. Maximum braking performance occurs all four wheels are just about to lock up. Now if one axle is about to lock up before the other, that means that one axle is being underutlized in braking. Thus, braking distances grow longer. This is what makes it critical to match up piston sizing with rotor diameters. Changing pads is one way to do it however it leaves you very limited in terms of pad selection.

BTW, extra long lines are a very dangerous thing. They may get in to places where they aren't suppose and which may pinch or cut the lines in which case the brakes would leave no fluid pressure.
 
#12 ·
Stoptech said:
Yes, only in OEM diameter, unless you go with the big brake kit. Going with larger rotors would require a new caliper or caliper extension. We don't believe in such products since they throw the brake balance off in a car. Although you have more heat capacity, brake balance shifted, and stopping distances grow longer.

which pad would you recomend we use if we are running the direct replacement rotors, and participate solo2 autocrosses about once a month
 
#14 ·
Jebus said:
which pad would you recomend we use if we are running the direct replacement rotors, and participate solo2 autocrosses about once a month
Axxis Ultimates or Hawk HP+ would suit you well. The downside is the amount of dust that the both of those pads have. THe HP+ may have some noise with it. Any pad will work with almost any rotor. Practically all rotors are cast iron so it's not like one pad will work this rotor and not another.
 
#15 ·
Stoptech said:
Axxis Ultimates or Hawk HP+ would suit you well. The downside is the amount of dust that the both of those pads have. THe HP+ may have some noise with it. Any pad will work with almost any rotor. Practically all rotors are cast iron so it's not like one pad will work this rotor and not another.
Repost :

http://forums.clubrsx.com/showpost.php?p=4883458&postcount=13

hahaha j/k mang. Yea, I have the HP pads and they will put out a bit of noise when they are hot, but they work great. Lucky for me my rims are graphite so the dust does not stand out really well unless you are looking for it. But if you run your finger over it, you'll see that they are coated in brake dust up front. lol

I autoX with my setup and the brakes are never a problem. Stoptech all the way.
 
#16 ·
BlackNite said:
Repost :

http://forums.clubrsx.com/showpost.php?p=4883458&postcount=13

hahaha j/k mang. Yea, I have the HP pads and they will put out a bit of noise when they are hot, but they work great. Lucky for me my rims are graphite so the dust does not stand out really well unless you are looking for it. But if you run your finger over it, you'll see that they are coated in brake dust up front. lol

I autoX with my setup and the brakes are never a problem. Stoptech all the way.
LOL.. ya kno, I wish i could post things once abd be done forever, but it wouldn't be very nice to say "search"
 
#18 ·
Stoptech said:
LOL.. ya kno, I wish i could post things once abd be done forever, but it wouldn't be very nice to say "search"

yea, I was just messing with you. I am going to order you guys rear slotted rotors to match my front when I have the $$. Still trying to decide if I want to replace the Hawk pads with Axxis pads when I do the upgarde.
 
#21 ·
Stoptech said:
Sorry, but I'm not able to offer a discount for club members. A reseller may help you out a bit.
Oh ok then, better ask than not, right. Thanks
 
#23 ·
When I shopped for my Axxis Ultimates on line, ordering direct from StopTech was still the best price. Their regular prices are very competitive. And btw, I autox with my Axxis Ultimates and luv em!
 
#24 ·
This is a little off topic, or tangential, but I searched and you guys obviously know RSX brakes so - my question is - do you have to remove the axle spindle nut in order to pull the front (and/or rear) rotors?

I am about to do my brakes for the first time and looking at the manual (Helms) it looks like I need to remove the spindle nut. They recommend re-surfacing the rotors while they are still attached but I don't know anybody that has that kind of equipment. :dontknow:

Thanks!
 
#25 ·
paulkramer said:
This is a little off topic, or tangential, but I searched and you guys obviously know RSX brakes so - my question is - do you have to remove the axle spindle nut in order to pull the front (and/or rear) rotors?

I am about to do my brakes for the first time and looking at the manual (Helms) it looks like I need to remove the spindle nut. They recommend re-surfacing the rotors while they are still attached but I don't know anybody that has that kind of equipment. :dontknow:

Thanks!
not required, the rotor can be taken off as in you'd just need a impact driver to take those screws off... which is also optional to put back on...since the wheel presses the rotor in fine, the screws are just there to hold to rotor in against the knuckle while you put the caliper back on and also be a pain in the ass to take off...