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meguiars NXT wax for car show - how many layers?

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#1 ·
sup

i just waxed my car today and the car show is in 4 days.. i was wondering if it would be safe if i threw another layer on at the show ?

i heard that u couldnt do it, was wondernig why..
 
#3 ·
okay greaT!!! another question, i have MEGUIARS QUIK MIST (in the red spray bottle)..

will this still be helpful at the show? or do i need the NXT style quick mister in teh purple bottle!

i will wax it at the show again then, how else would i get the optimum shine out of a satin silveR? i pretty happy with it now but i dont feel that its shiney enuff..

today i washed >> clay bared the whole car >> then waxed with NXT
 
#4 ·
For a show you really dont have to use a wax. Thats what glaze is made for. Glaze doesnt last long and it shines like a crazy. What I do before I use NXT is to use Meguiars #7 glaze then top it with NXT to seal it in.
 
#6 ·
quang said:
okay greaT!!! another question, i have MEGUIARS QUIK MIST (in the red spray bottle)..

will this still be helpful at the show? or do i need the NXT style quick mister in teh purple bottle!

i will wax it at the show again then, how else would i get the optimum shine out of a satin silveR? i pretty happy with it now but i dont feel that its shiney enuff..

today i washed >> clay bared the whole car >> then waxed with NXT
The meguires quick detailer does wonders man. as soon as you get to the show just spray that on your car and wipe it off. plain and simple. you don't need to wax your car again. coz you'll have dust and debris on it while you drive so you might just scratch it. just use the quick detailer and that's it. good luck :thumbsup:
 
#7 ·
nadir said:
NXT is a cleaner wax with some abbrasiveness to it.... if you apply another layer, it will just remove the old layer too.
NXT is a pure wax because its solvents are lower compared to a true cleaner/wax.

Regardless, even with small amount of solvents, NXT will still remove old layers of way.

Zaino can be layered.

If the original poster wants to make his car look great with NXT, then apply NXT, then wait 24 hours to allow NXT to cure, then apply a pure Carnauba wax. That will bring out a real depth in the paint.
 
#8 ·
i also have mequiars GOLD CLASS at home.. shud i throw that on top of it ?
 
#9 ·
akumatose said:
The meguires quick detailer does wonders man. as soon as you get to the show just spray that on your car and wipe it off. plain and simple. you don't need to wax your car again. coz you'll have dust and debris on it while you drive so you might just scratch it. just use the quick detailer and that's it. good luck :thumbsup:
yup yup...

quick detailer is kind of a lubricant that helps remove fine dust n debris from your car leaving a nice shine :)

ill have 2 try that glaze sometime. but i wonder if itll make much of a difference on a ssm :eek:
 
#10 ·
I personally DO NOT consider NXT a cleaner wax. It does have some specified "cleaners" in it, but it is definitely not a true cleaner wax.

The word from Meguiars is that if you apply two layers you will be leaving behind more than you are removing. I tend to agree from my own experience.

If it was my car, I would prep the car to perfection and then apply two thin coats of the NXT for even coverage. On the night before the show, wash the car and apply another of NXT.
 
#11 ·
(repost)

Take a look at the MSDS for NXT. It doesn't appear to be very revolutionary at all. In fact, to me, it bears a strong resemblance to Meguiar's previous "synthetic," Meguiar's Body Shop Professional #20.

What?

Let's do some comparisons, shall we?

Water Content
NXT = 40-60%
#20 = 35-55%

Solvents (Isoparaffinic Hydrocarbons)
NXT = 15-30%
#20 = 15-25%

Solvents, Part II (Hydrotreated Distillates)
NXT = 1-5%
#20 = 1-5%

Kaolin (an abrasive compound; NXT contains Calcined Kaolin, which is slightly modified Kaolin)
NXT = 5-15%
#20 = 8-12%

Polysiloxane (member of Silicone Oil family)
NXT = 2-10%
#20 = 1-5%

Polyglycerol Ester specifically: 1,2,3-propanetriol, homopolymer, (Z)-9-octadecenoate (An emulsifier (fatty acid), used to thicken things)
NXT = 1-5%
#20 = Not identified

Polymer Wax Blend, CAS-8015-86-9 (Carnauba Wax)
NXT = Identified as "Trade Secret," so it may be different than #20 = 1-5%
#20 = 1-5% (Identified as CAS-8015-86-9)

"Conditioners" (Identified as Trade Secret, unidentifiable)
NXT = 2-6%
#20 = 1-5%

Light Distilliate
NXT = None listed
#20 = 10-15%


Ok, so now that we have an idea of what's inside the product, I have to pose a few questions:

1) It was stated elsewhere as having "zero, zip, nadda cleaning action..." Huh? What? It clearly has an abrasive (Kaolin) and it has solvents, which can be rather effective cleaning agents. The inclusion of these two items would lead me to believe that NXT does in fact, carry some cleaning ability, or am I just being a wet blanket?

2) Is it able to be layered? I would think no, because of the abrasive and solvents contained within. It might be able to be applied multiple times, but I don't believe it would be effective when layered.
 
#12 ·
Like mistaclean said, while it does contain some mild cleaners, you should still be able to put a second coat without cleaning the first one off. Just make sure you let the first coast cure overnight. Some people follow the second NXT with a coat of Meguiar's #16.
 
#13 ·
mistaclean said:
I personally DO NOT consider NXT a cleaner wax. It does have some specified "cleaners" in it, but it is definitely not a true cleaner wax.

The word from Meguiars is that if you apply two layers you will be leaving behind more than you are removing. I tend to agree from my own experience.

If it was my car, I would prep the car to perfection and then apply two thin coats of the NXT for even coverage. On the night before the show, wash the car and apply another of NXT.

okay, so i applied the first layer today.. the next layer will go on thursday night! is this safe? u stated before it will just leave behind more than im removing..

will that be the same if i wash the car and then wax it 1 final time? is it okay to apply some scratch x after i waxed the car already today?

thanks !! also, how long am i supposed to leave it on before i wipe it off? today i left it on until it hazed.. me and my friend both applied the wax to the entire car then remove it.. we did the whole thing in like 40 mins in very gloomy weather, no sun AT ALL!!!

thanks for all the replies
 
#14 ·
Just a thought....If you need a quick answer about meguiars products during the day, just call them up. Their number is on the outside of the nxt bottle. I have called them up and asked them questions before and they were very helpful.
 
#15 ·
mvkicker said:
Just a thought....If you need a quick answer about meguiars products during the day, just call them up. Their number is on the outside of the nxt bottle. I have called them up and asked them questions before and they were very helpful.
Here's a thought...,
Call them 3-4 times in a row, (make sure to speak to different reps), you will get 3-4 different answers..., ya wanna know how I know that, LOL!!

(BTW, NXT does not layer..., any product with abrasives and cleaners do not layer, simple chemistry:)
 
#17 ·
phatdood9 said:
Waynestowels, I heard that since NXT contains a small amount of abrasives/cleaners it wont strip away all of the nxt that you already have on. Someone diid a test on the autopia carcare forums
There have been lots of tests and studies since it's release..., some scientific, some not so scientific.

That is the reason I posted what it contains, abrasives and cleaners..., again, simple chemistry tells a different story than layering.

No biggie and nothing to get excited about...,
"If" in fact it does contain abrasives and cleaners (which the info does say it contains), "If it is not strong enough to remove a microscopic layer of wax, how would it then be able to remove swirls, stains, scratches, etc that is inthe paint as the packaging claims...,
Meguiars cannot have it both ways..., there goes that simple chemistry again:)

(pretty easy, just read between the lines:)

Hope this helps...
 
#18 ·
I remeber when the original debate about NXT came up and someone posted the MSDS sheets. Meguiars claimed that you can't tell anything from the MSDS sheet and everyone else analyzed it to death. I don't really care if it can be layered or not. IMO there are very few products that will actually layer in the sense that you would see a measurable film build anyway. If you get too many layers wouldn't it "yellow" anyway?

I know from personal experiance that the NXT has far less cleaning capabilities than #20. Try it on single stage paint and see which one produces more paint transfer.

I like NXT and I like zaino, hell I like everything in between. If your process and tools are right then you can acheive great results with anything. All IMO of course.
 
#19 ·
Am I the only one that thinks NXT sucks? I have used this wax a countless number of times now, and to my disappointment every time I wash my car, it looks like there's no wax protection on the paint! No beads of water. And I wash my car with a mild, car soap...meguiar's none the less.

Sure it smells nice, it's easy to wipe off, but the protection IMO just plain sucks.
 
#20 ·
2:43AM said:
Am I the only one that thinks NXT sucks? I have used this wax a countless number of times now, and to my disappointment every time I wash my car, it looks like there's no wax protection on the paint! No beads of water. And I wash my car with a mild, car soap...meguiar's none the less.

Sure it smells nice, it's easy to wipe off, but the protection IMO just plain sucks.
You are certainly not alone, a lot of people don't like it. Why don't you take advantage of Meguiars satisfaction guarantee and get your $ back?
 
#21 ·
mistaclean said:
You are certainly not alone, a lot of people don't like it. Why don't you take advantage of Meguiars satisfaction guarantee and get your $ back?
Well that's a relief. I will check into the satisfaction guarantee, but I think it's too late. I bought the wax back in May, and I no longer have the receipts. I expected more from a $15.00 bottle of wax from a so-called reputable company. I bought NXT after seeing an ad in Car & Driver. Basically, NXT is all hype.

Let's just say I placed an order about 25 minutes ago for Zaino Z-2. Hopefully, that will live up to the ClubRSX hype on my car!
 
#22 ·
2:43AM said:
Well that's a relief. I will check into the satisfaction guarantee, but I think it's too late. I bought the wax back in May, and I no longer have the receipts. I expected more from a $15.00 bottle of wax from a so-called reputable company. I bought NXT after seeing an ad in Car & Driver. Basically, NXT is all hype.

Let's just say I placed an order about 25 minutes ago for Zaino Z-2. Hopefully, that will live up to the ClubRSX hype on my car!
Call the number on the back of the bottle and tell them that you are not satisfied, they will take care of it.

Detailing is all prep and process, not product IMO. If the Z-2 fits your needs better so be it, hope it works for you.

Calling NXT all hype is a bit false IMO. It would help everyone reading this thread if you instead stated something along the lines of....."NXT does not work for me. I find that it is not durable and will not last through a few washes in my environment. I mixed the soap to the correct dillutions and used a sheepskin mitt." IMO stating your processes and why you have come to this conclusion about NXT will help everyone in the future.

Just my .02
 
#23 ·
I agree, the process is very important..., let me say it again- Very Important:)

What I do not like about NXT is-
1- Very Very low durability..., after all the work prepping correctly, I hoped for more than 3 weks protection.

2- All the hype involved with the product "before" it was released. People were stirred into a frenzy and led to believe-
a- it contained no cleaners
b- it contained no abrasives
c- it would be as durable as Zaino
d- it was a "pure sealant", not a "cleaner wax" product
e- it contains fillers

I won't say it sucks, but I will say I was VERY Disappointed in it's performance, I expected a lot more, especially from a company with the resources, knowledge and technology to make a better product.

(just my opinion on the subject..., feel free to disagree. I am not out to "change" anyone's opinion, however, for the price, there are better choices- IMO:)
 
#24 ·
quang said:
i also have mequiars GOLD CLASS at home.. shud i throw that on top of it ?
I'm wondering this, too.