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D.I.Y How to compression test

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#1 · (Edited)
I searched and the thread I found had all the pictures missing from 05 and yadi so I thought I would post one of my D.I.Y's since most of you who know me know I am a DIY junkie.... ANYWAYS!


First this applies to all cars pretty much... Hondas are just so easy to work on this seems much easier on it!

Here is your starting point.
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First thing is you need to remove the four 10mm bolts holding the spark plug cover on

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Next we'll remove the four 10mm bolts holding down the ignition coils. You will need a 10mm deep socket for that. Then lift the coils and unplug the blue connectors

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Now remove its time to remove the spark plugs. I hate the oring spark plug sockets I recommend buying the magnetic sockets!

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Now keep your plugs in order and compare them... right away I know I'm in trouble as the 3rd cylinder spark plug has liquid on it.... :noes:

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Now you must do one of two things. Depending on the car, you can either pull the fuse for the fuel pump or you can do as I did and pull the injector clips off. Either way you don't want fuel dumping into the engine while testing!

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I don't attach the gauge yet on the tester because it's easier to instal in the cylinder without. But start with cylinder 1. (closest to timing chain/belt) You don't have to start here but I recommend it.

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Now attach the gauge and head into the car.

two thing you need to remember!

a) hold the gas to the floor. You want to test the compression at WOT (wide open throttle)
b) you must be repetitive and bump the engine the same each time for every cylinder!

So hold the gas and crank the engine of 3-5 times. I always do four. However many times you do it just make sure they are all the same! Now go look at your gauge

So here are my cylinders in order

#1
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#2
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#3
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#4
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To my surprise I have not one but two screwed cylinders. You want your cylinders to all be consistent and within a small amount of eachother. As my first two cylinders are.
Compression Pressure:
Above 930 kPa (9.5 kgf/cm , 135 psi)
MaximumVariation:
Within 200 kPa (2.0 kgf/cm , 28 psi)

If you want to test for a ring you can do a wet test now and pour a little oil in the cylinder and test again to see if the compression bumps up.


I hope your engine results don't turn out like mine!!
 
Discussion starter · #7 ·
Damn that sucks. Good DIY, bad luck. Hope it's nothing serious.

Out of curiousity....what do you have your plugs gapped at? I've been running the same plugs as in your pic, gapped at .020 running 12psi, & my cars stalls when I drive slow & push in the clutch (parking lots, mainly). I'm thinking I'm gapped wrong:dontknow:
are you running iridium plugs? Because I am an to my knowledge you really can't gap an iridium plug because of the tip. What plugs are you running? Have you taken them out lately and looked at them? They will tell you lots about how the engines running
 
Discussion starter · #15 ·
Awesome! When you mean crank the engine 3-5 time do you mean by just turning the key on and let the engine crank 3-5 times or just turn the key on for a second and just bump the engine and do that 3-5 times?
yes physically try to start the car. So turn it on and hold it for a second or two while it attempts to bump over.
 
Discussion starter · #19 ·
regular ngk iridiums on a k24a2 w/ bolt ons
never stuck a gaping tool in an iridium plug.. so whatever the read out of the box lol

Actually I have some lying in the garage I will go check. Now that I lost my job and em unemployed again I have lots of time
 
Discussion starter · #24 ·
I got this out of Helms

My question. Is it really necessary for the steps for 05-06 models?
Cylinder Head

Engine Compression Inspection
NOTE: On the 2005-2006 models: After this inspection,
you must reset the engine control module (ECM)/
powertrain control module (PCM), otherwise ECM/PCM
will continue to stop the injectors from functioning.
Select ECM/PCM reset using the Honda Diagnostic
System (HDS) (see page 11-4).
1. Warm up the engine to normal operating
temperature (cooling fan comes on).
2. Turn the ignition switch OFF.
3. 2002-2004 models: Remove the No. 17 (15 A) fuse
from the under-dash fuse/relay box.
2005-2006 models: Connect the HDS to the data link
connector (DLC) (see step 2 on page 11-3). Turn the
ignition switch ON (II), then select PGM-FI,
INSPECTION, then All INJECTORS OFF function on
the HDS.
4. Remove the four ignition coils (see page 4-26).
5. Remove the four spark plugs.
6. Attach the compression gauge to the spark plug
hole.
7. Open the throttle fully, then crank the engine with
the starter motor and measure the compression.
Compression Pressure:
Above 930 kPa (9.5 kgf/cm , 135 psi)
8. Measure the compression on the remaining
cylinders.
MaximumVariation:
Within 200 kPa (2.0 kgf/cm , 28 psi)
9. If the compression is not within specifications,
check the following items, then remeasure the
compression.
• Damaged or worn valves and seats
• Damaged cylinder head gasket
• Damaged or worn piston rings
• Damaged or worn piston and cylinder bore
10. Remove the compression gauge from the spark
plug hole.
11. Install the four spark plugs.
12. Install the four ignition coils (see page 4-26).
13. 2002-2004 models: Install the No. 17 (15 A) fuse
from the under-dash fuse/relay box.
2005-2006 models: Select ECM/PCM reset
(see page 11-4) to stop the ALL INJECTORS OFF
function on the HDS.

Spaz you should put the specs up in the first post for the people who dont read the tread.

I think you'd only need to reset the ECU if you pull the fuse like they are doing. I unplug the injector clips so it's still sending signal just not shooting gas.
 
Discussion starter · #31 ·
Discussion starter · #36 ·
you can see how healthy and strong your engine is or is not. You can see if piston rings are going bad and bent valves
 
Discussion starter · #40 ·
My car is an 05-06... :dontknow: :laughing:

So yup it works 05-06

I've compression testing maybe 100 cars?! Done it the same way every time. Just pull the injector clips and I have never had any issues.


Unclipping the injectors is the easy way, but the easiest way isn't always look upon as the best way. Of course the dealership is going to cut the power to the pump since the point is to not spray fuel. Plus, pulling one fuse is easier than unplugging four injectors.
 
Discussion starter · #45 ·
So what does it mean if you have low compression? Bad valves? And also when you do the wet test, how much oil should you add into the cylinder first before checking compression? Like a drop? And if the compression goes up means your rings are fine???

Mostly it tests for bad piston rings. First you want to do the dry test. If it comes back low stick a couple drops of oil in that cylinder for a wet test. If compression bumps up then you have a bad ring started. The oil will fall into the cavity of the leak and bump up compression... Bad sign. If compression stays the same and is low it could be a sign of a bad valve seal or bent valve
 
Discussion starter · #52 ·
Base with 60k on it, got it with 52k on it and changed the oil and changed the plugs, the plugs looked pretty burnt and had a bit of oil on them so I changed the valve cover gasket and the spark plug gaskets as suggested by you guys a few months ago.

Checked my plugs a week after putting them in, (2-3 months ago) and they looked dry and carbon fouled but I was told it was ok. Been getting shit gas mileage...17mpg with 50/50 city/highway, so my guess was an o2 sensor...

I decided to do a compression test just to make sure the motor was healthy because cyl 3 looked a little different from the rest when I checked the plugs. Test read 185psi in each cylinder, and the plugs looked REALLY dry carbon fouled...which means the car is running lean... Do you think its just an o2 sensor causing the car to not give the right amount of fuel and my gas mileage? From what I know the most important part of a compression test is uniformity and they were all spot on 185psi so idk ?

as far as compression test your headgasket and your piston rings are doing just fine. As far as shitty spark plugs if all the plugs look like crap one of the possibilities could definitely be O2 sensor.