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good write up

just seen the new club website cleannnn:thumbsup::bow:
 
I got this out of Helms

My question. Is it really necessary for the steps for 05-06 models?
Cylinder Head

Engine Compression Inspection
NOTE: On the 2005-2006 models: After this inspection,
you must reset the engine control module (ECM)/
powertrain control module (PCM), otherwise ECM/PCM
will continue to stop the injectors from functioning.
Select ECM/PCM reset using the Honda Diagnostic
System (HDS) (see page 11-4).
1. Warm up the engine to normal operating
temperature (cooling fan comes on).
2. Turn the ignition switch OFF.
3. 2002-2004 models: Remove the No. 17 (15 A) fuse
from the under-dash fuse/relay box.
2005-2006 models: Connect the HDS to the data link
connector (DLC) (see step 2 on page 11-3). Turn the
ignition switch ON (II), then select PGM-FI,
INSPECTION, then All INJECTORS OFF function on
the HDS.
4. Remove the four ignition coils (see page 4-26).
5. Remove the four spark plugs.
6. Attach the compression gauge to the spark plug
hole.
7. Open the throttle fully, then crank the engine with
the starter motor and measure the compression.
Compression Pressure:
Above 930 kPa (9.5 kgf/cm , 135 psi)
8. Measure the compression on the remaining
cylinders.
MaximumVariation:
Within 200 kPa (2.0 kgf/cm , 28 psi)
9. If the compression is not within specifications,
check the following items, then remeasure the
compression.
• Damaged or worn valves and seats
• Damaged cylinder head gasket
• Damaged or worn piston rings
• Damaged or worn piston and cylinder bore
10. Remove the compression gauge from the spark
plug hole.
11. Install the four spark plugs.
12. Install the four ignition coils (see page 4-26).
13. 2002-2004 models: Install the No. 17 (15 A) fuse
from the under-dash fuse/relay box.
2005-2006 models: Select ECM/PCM reset
(see page 11-4) to stop the ALL INJECTORS OFF
function on the HDS.

Spaz you should put the specs up in the first post for the people who dont read the tread.
 
Discussion starter · #24 ·
I got this out of Helms

My question. Is it really necessary for the steps for 05-06 models?
Cylinder Head

Engine Compression Inspection
NOTE: On the 2005-2006 models: After this inspection,
you must reset the engine control module (ECM)/
powertrain control module (PCM), otherwise ECM/PCM
will continue to stop the injectors from functioning.
Select ECM/PCM reset using the Honda Diagnostic
System (HDS) (see page 11-4).
1. Warm up the engine to normal operating
temperature (cooling fan comes on).
2. Turn the ignition switch OFF.
3. 2002-2004 models: Remove the No. 17 (15 A) fuse
from the under-dash fuse/relay box.
2005-2006 models: Connect the HDS to the data link
connector (DLC) (see step 2 on page 11-3). Turn the
ignition switch ON (II), then select PGM-FI,
INSPECTION, then All INJECTORS OFF function on
the HDS.
4. Remove the four ignition coils (see page 4-26).
5. Remove the four spark plugs.
6. Attach the compression gauge to the spark plug
hole.
7. Open the throttle fully, then crank the engine with
the starter motor and measure the compression.
Compression Pressure:
Above 930 kPa (9.5 kgf/cm , 135 psi)
8. Measure the compression on the remaining
cylinders.
MaximumVariation:
Within 200 kPa (2.0 kgf/cm , 28 psi)
9. If the compression is not within specifications,
check the following items, then remeasure the
compression.
• Damaged or worn valves and seats
• Damaged cylinder head gasket
• Damaged or worn piston rings
• Damaged or worn piston and cylinder bore
10. Remove the compression gauge from the spark
plug hole.
11. Install the four spark plugs.
12. Install the four ignition coils (see page 4-26).
13. 2002-2004 models: Install the No. 17 (15 A) fuse
from the under-dash fuse/relay box.
2005-2006 models: Select ECM/PCM reset
(see page 11-4) to stop the ALL INJECTORS OFF
function on the HDS.

Spaz you should put the specs up in the first post for the people who dont read the tread.

I think you'd only need to reset the ECU if you pull the fuse like they are doing. I unplug the injector clips so it's still sending signal just not shooting gas.
 
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but the numbers by them selves should be no indication of how healthy the motor is. There are so many different factors which can cause the compression numbers to vary from motor to motor, whether it be how old the gauge it self is, how many times you crank the engine, what type of cams you are running, etc.... all you are looking for is consistency.
 
Discussion starter · #31 ·
I think you'd only need to reset the ECU if you pull the fuse like they are doing. I unplug the injector clips so it's still sending signal just not shooting gas.
I just want to double check that this will not cause any issues on an 05 or 06. This is what I have done previously on other cars with no issues but just want to make sure others with 05-06 models have done it this way without problems. No offense to you Spaz cause you obviously know your stuff.
 
Which part are you double checking? The Fuse or the Injector clip pulling?
Both, obviously with the injectors unclipped they can't spray fuel and the test can be done. But I wanted to make sure that others have done it this way not the way dictated in the service manual on the 05-06 models. If it were this simple, wouldn't they just say to unclip the injectors ?
 
Discussion starter · #40 ·
My car is an 05-06... :dontknow: :laughing:

So yup it works 05-06

I've compression testing maybe 100 cars?! Done it the same way every time. Just pull the injector clips and I have never had any issues.


Unclipping the injectors is the easy way, but the easiest way isn't always look upon as the best way. Of course the dealership is going to cut the power to the pump since the point is to not spray fuel. Plus, pulling one fuse is easier than unplugging four injectors.
 
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